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Saturday, 23 October 2010
Look out birds
24 comments:
Anonymous
said...
Had this through the door yesterday. Despite evidence that these turbines are a waste of time( and will add hundreds to your energy bills) it seems that pretty soon the uplands of Glamorgan are going to have more than our fair share of them. Nice to know that the wankers in the Senate have the protection of our wildlife and countryside way down on the list of priorities. As for AGW what a load of bollocks
These ought to sort out the Honeys, Peres Goss 7 Owls etc. Agree they are a complete waste of time - contribute nothing at all to vistas or energy production - . If WAG used the energy going up in hot air through the chimney of the assembly they would create twice as much energy. More powers! NO THANKS
What are honeys, peres, goss & owls? New species of bird? Wind Farms are great, they look amazing and they attempt to put right what your generation fucked up. I'd rather look at a wind turbine than a burnt out car on the side of slag heap thanks very much. Do well positioned turbines really single out honeys, peres and what ever other birds you so think they do? Where's your proof?
Proof - Nuclear Power generates loads of electricity. Just look what the Froggies did. They built loads of them and now they sell off their surplus to the UK, Italy, Belgium, Switzerland, Spain and Germany making loads of money. NP has had a bad press because the Pinko press thinks it's dreadful and that lovely wind/wave power is fab! Peace & Love Man. F'ing Crap. The best news I had this week was the scrapping of the Severn Barrage - what a load of shite that was. Just another excuse to build a road across the river for the great God: motor car. Why you could fill up with petrol and have burger (go large with that mate) at the Flat Holm services. As for 'windfarms on mountain tops and brown paper packages tied up with string' etc. - I bet some people make a load of doe out of eco surveys for all those proposed plans.
PS As they say in all the best exams 'Always read the question first'...proof my hapless little friend refers to well placed windfarms decimating birds not whether or not nuclear power is the answer. They've known for 30 years or more that the only way to provide the growing energy needs of the world is nuclear. Period. Wind farms, tidal barrages, solar panels etc are renewable energies that are only designed to make a contribution to that supply. So I ask again, where's your proof that well positioned wind turbines (that those nasty money grabbing bastards have done lefty pinko eco-tpye surveys on)kill all those peres,honeyies, gossies, buzzardies and kities?
Show me a well positioned wind farm that generates even a fraction of what it was supposed to. How do you position a wind farm on a mountain or at sea that will not have an effect upon birds. That's where the wind is - so how can you do it. For the evidence for massive wind farms - for that is what is required - and their adverse effect on Birds of prey look no further than Spain or California - neither of which produces a significant amount of energy. It doesn't have to kill all the birds - they just move on. They are DANISH CRAP! Now don't start me off on the Danes - they get me really worked up - happy Grind to you to!
Those are not well positioned winfarms, infact they are the very examples of what not to do. So I ask again, where's your evidence that well positioned windfarms kill birds (even non-sensational species like goldcrests and skylarks?)....cars kill birds (millions in fact) and so do cats (millions again), men with guns kill birds (millions as well no doubt, good point Clive).... but compared to either of these how does generating renewable energy via wind stack up? Hmmmmm?
Randal, where are the surveys that monitor any windfarms for bird kills? So really we don't know one way or another do we.All I will say is that with Honeys which we had watched for years they certainly avoided the areas around turbines , where they had been happy enough before they were there, so they do change behaviour. So I suppose the one there and the one being built up the valley are well positioned then? If you mean to tell me that these windfarms on upland mountains ain't going to affect, birds raptors ,in particular then you are biased because of all the dosh you make out of surveying them. How the fuck are birds supposed to hunt when all the ridges are covered in turbines. anyhow your an expert now are you, before the windfarm dosh the only time I saw you on the hills was when you came up to see the Twite I found ;-).Im with Jake Nuclear it is
Randal read The Wind farm Scam by John Etherington, they are a waste of time plus we are going to be paying even more for our electricity for things that barely fcuking work. If you like them that much get some land down your way and put the fcukers there, you'll earn a fortune
"We are going to be paying more"??!! C'mon Misty - nobody who lives near wind farms pays for any utilities cos you're all on the dole and those of us in Metropolis foot the bills!
I've never worked in the South Wales valleys on windfarms actually Misty. I chose to go somewhere where there were proper mountains and proper rare birds, way before you (?) found a couple of Twite (didn't need them for Glamorgan, so didn't go anyway-soz). I'm no expert Misty but I have spent about eight years working (at times) on windfarms, all over the UK. Windfarms do kill birds but then I think modern farming practices have killed more and globalwarming is already threatening the range and number of those that remain. If the area has been properly surveyed then the collision risk analysis allows us to model turbine lay outs to minimise these risks. Birds are a major factor in the positioning and location of windfarms and if you think diffreently, you're very much mistaken. Windfarms are just one facet of an energy policy that isn't perfect, but I'd rather have a windfarm than a coal powered power station or a nuclear reactor at Kenfig?
I reakon they ought to subsidise Seymour's bottom, that creates a lot of wind, especially after the CBC curry!! As for windfarms etc. its vogue with the green crowd and nukes are not - but I'm afraid with the human population growth now on a par with rats and cockroaches, we'll need more than a few wind turbines and little wavey things in the sea. Basically boys, we're buggered - in fact, that's it! Buggery will keep the population down and some you will have fun doing it! However I'm with Slapper, Pornhub's more fun.
Randal you were up the Twite same day you'd been down west surveying ducks I think you'd said, so that's crap for a start. As for the question mark, are you questioning wether or not I found them? Once these winfarms are erected here lets hope we don't get similar conditions that grounded all those Ousels or there's going to be a he'll of a lot of feathers. How many Nuclear power stations will we need?You are talking like Peter Hain was, alarmist bullshite, you wouldn't need Nuclear power stations all over the place would you? Not a lot to generate the same energy that covering most of the uplands in turbines will.They don't generate fcuk all , check the stats for last winter when we had the prolonged cold spell with hardly any wind,the whole lot country wide were generating zilch. how do they save on CO2 emissions when conventional stations are kept on standby? As for Scotland , well done , we'll see in a few years if you've helped place them in the right areas when people monitor them for bird kills
That was the snow bunting the year before at Werfa Scrapyard!I thought GLB found the Twite? It started off as a Lapland Bunting then you turned up and it turned into a Twite? Are you coming to the curry this year? Judd's offered to pay!
Seymour as you have so kindly agreed to pay my energy bills can you supply me with a point of contact so I can collect my dosh, minus Randals cut of course;-)
If a nuclear power station at KNNR would turn it into Dungeness?
Now I'd be up for that!
The underlying truth about renewables in the UK is that the renewable is inconsistent wind, sun, wave - they all come and go - at least with nukes you can guarantee output over a lifetime and know the cost as well. All we need to do then is find a way to get rid of the waste. Fewer people is the answer - this planet is infested with them - birders excepted of course!
Seems like there's also a bit of Drilling going on for methane gas too, what a shower of shite we have running this country. The way these arseholes are handing out permission we will be lucky to see a crow on our hills in a couple of years
24 comments:
Had this through the door yesterday.
Despite evidence that these turbines are a waste of time( and will add hundreds to your energy bills) it seems that pretty soon the uplands of Glamorgan are going to have more than our fair share of them.
Nice to know that the wankers in the Senate have the protection of our wildlife and countryside way down on the list of priorities.
As for AGW what a load of bollocks
These ought to sort out the Honeys, Peres Goss 7 Owls etc.
Agree they are a complete waste of time - contribute nothing at all to vistas or energy production - .
If WAG used the energy going up in hot air through the chimney of the assembly they would create twice as much energy.
More powers! NO THANKS
What are honeys, peres, goss & owls? New species of bird? Wind Farms are great, they look amazing and they attempt to put right what your generation fucked up. I'd rather look at a wind turbine than a burnt out car on the side of slag heap thanks very much. Do well positioned turbines really single out honeys, peres and what ever other birds you so think they do? Where's your proof?
Proof - Nuclear Power generates loads of electricity. Just look what the Froggies did. They built loads of them and now they sell off their surplus to the UK, Italy, Belgium, Switzerland, Spain and Germany making loads of money. NP has had a bad press because the Pinko press thinks it's dreadful and that lovely wind/wave power is fab! Peace & Love Man. F'ing Crap. The best news I had this week was the scrapping of the Severn Barrage - what a load of shite that was. Just another excuse to build a road across the river for the great God: motor car. Why you could fill up with petrol and have burger (go large with that mate) at the Flat Holm services.
As for 'windfarms on mountain tops and brown paper packages tied up with string' etc. - I bet some people make a load of doe out of eco surveys for all those proposed plans.
DOUBLE BOLLOX
PS As they say in all the best exams 'Always read the question first'...proof my hapless little friend refers to well placed windfarms decimating birds not whether or not nuclear power is the answer. They've known for 30 years or more that the only way to provide the growing energy needs of the world is nuclear. Period. Wind farms, tidal barrages, solar panels etc are renewable energies that are only designed to make a contribution to that supply. So I ask again, where's your proof that well positioned wind turbines (that those nasty money grabbing bastards have done lefty pinko eco-tpye surveys on)kill all those peres,honeyies, gossies, buzzardies and kities?
Better still,why don't we just NUKE Malta,thats bound to offset the loss against wind farms worldwide.
Show me a well positioned wind farm that generates even a fraction of what it was supposed to.
How do you position a wind farm on a mountain or at sea that will not have an effect upon birds. That's where the wind is - so how can you do it. For the evidence for massive wind farms - for that is what is required - and their adverse effect on Birds of prey look no further than Spain or California - neither of which produces a significant amount of energy.
It doesn't have to kill all the birds - they just move on. They are DANISH CRAP!
Now don't start me off on the Danes - they get me really worked up - happy Grind to you to!
Those are not well positioned winfarms, infact they are the very examples of what not to do. So I ask again, where's your evidence that well positioned windfarms kill birds (even non-sensational species like goldcrests and skylarks?)....cars kill birds (millions in fact) and so do cats (millions again), men with guns kill birds (millions as well no doubt, good point Clive).... but compared to either of these how does generating renewable energy via wind stack up? Hmmmmm?
Randal, where are the surveys that monitor any windfarms for bird kills?
So really we don't know one way or another do we.All I will say is that with Honeys which we had watched for years they certainly avoided the areas around turbines , where they had been happy enough before they were there, so they do change behaviour. So I suppose the one there and the one being built up the valley are well positioned then?
If you mean to tell me that these windfarms on upland mountains ain't going to affect, birds raptors ,in particular then you are biased because of all the dosh you make out of surveying them.
How the fuck are birds supposed to hunt when all the ridges are covered in turbines.
anyhow your an expert now are you, before the windfarm dosh the only time I saw you on the hills was when you came up to see the Twite I found ;-).Im with Jake Nuclear it is
Randal read The Wind farm Scam by John Etherington, they are a waste of time plus we are going to be paying even more for our electricity for things that barely fcuking work.
If you like them that much get some land down your way and put the fcukers there, you'll earn a fortune
There's an article about proposed wind farms on South Wales uplands at
http://tinyurl.com/39utyuj
Dunno if the hyperlink will work but cut & paste it if not. It leads to a page on ThisisSouthWales web site.
"We are going to be paying more"??!! C'mon Misty - nobody who lives near wind farms pays for any utilities cos you're all on the dole and those of us in Metropolis foot the bills!
I've never worked in the South Wales valleys on windfarms actually Misty. I chose to go somewhere where there were proper mountains and proper rare birds, way before you (?) found a couple of Twite (didn't need them for Glamorgan, so didn't go anyway-soz). I'm no expert Misty but I have spent about eight years working (at times) on windfarms, all over the UK. Windfarms do kill birds but then I think modern farming practices have killed more and globalwarming is already threatening the range and number of those that remain. If the area has been properly surveyed then the collision risk analysis allows us to model turbine lay outs to minimise these risks. Birds are a major factor in the positioning and location of windfarms and if you think diffreently, you're very much mistaken. Windfarms are just one facet of an energy policy that isn't perfect, but I'd rather have a windfarm than a coal powered power station or a nuclear reactor at Kenfig?
I reakon they ought to subsidise Seymour's bottom, that creates a lot of wind, especially after the CBC curry!!
As for windfarms etc. its vogue with the green crowd and nukes are not - but I'm afraid with the human population growth now on a par with rats and cockroaches, we'll need more than a few wind turbines and little wavey things in the sea. Basically boys, we're buggered - in fact, that's it! Buggery will keep the population down and some you will have fun doing it! However I'm with Slapper, Pornhub's more fun.
If only we could harness the energy from perpetual BOLLOX eh?
Randal you were up the Twite same day you'd been down west surveying ducks I think you'd said, so that's crap for a start. As for the question mark, are you questioning wether or not I found them?
Once these winfarms are erected here lets hope we don't get similar conditions that grounded all those Ousels or there's going to be a he'll of a lot of feathers. How many Nuclear power stations will we need?You are talking like Peter Hain was, alarmist bullshite, you wouldn't need Nuclear power stations all over the place would you? Not a lot to generate the same energy that covering most of the uplands in turbines will.They don't generate fcuk all , check the stats for last winter when we had the prolonged cold spell with hardly any wind,the whole lot country wide were generating zilch. how do they save on CO2 emissions when conventional stations are kept on standby? As for Scotland , well done , we'll see in a few years if you've helped place them in the right areas when people monitor them for bird kills
That was the snow bunting the year before at Werfa Scrapyard!I thought GLB found the Twite? It started off as a Lapland Bunting then you turned up and it turned into a Twite? Are you coming to the curry this year? Judd's offered to pay!
Seymour as you have so kindly agreed to pay my energy bills can you supply me with a point of contact so I can collect my dosh, minus Randals cut of course;-)
Make that double perpetual Bollox
Do bats get a raw deal from turbines,i wonder?
If a nuclear power station at KNNR would turn it into Dungeness?
Now I'd be up for that!
The underlying truth about renewables in the UK is that the renewable is inconsistent wind, sun, wave - they all come and go - at least with nukes you can guarantee output over a lifetime and know the cost as well.
All we need to do then is find a way to get rid of the waste.
Fewer people is the answer - this planet is infested with them - birders excepted of course!
Seems like there's also a bit of Drilling going on for methane gas too, what a shower of shite we have running this country.
The way these arseholes are handing out permission we will be lucky to see a crow on our hills in a couple of years
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